Adam Morgan uses this episode of Real Creative Leadership to break down his five-level creative leadership maturity model, designed to help creative teams elevate their work and start connecting with their organizations in a deeper, more meaningful way. With insights into nurturing creative talent and finding opportunities to bring creativity into discussions about the “business” side of things, Adam leverages his decades of experience to help listeners see the possibilities of what their teams can really do.

Adam Morgan hosts Maya Dukes, Managing Director of Global Brand Strategy, Creative & Social Media at Delta Air Lines, for a wanderlust-inducing episode that dives deep into why filing your own “creative cup” is more important than ever before.

Leading from the “sidecar” is the best management strategy you haven’t heard of—until now. Host Adam Morgan chats with guest Jennifer Lai Stern, head of Brand Studio at PayPal, about her extensive industry experience and her favorite ways to lead creative teams with empathy as well as skill.